In this episode Gina has a conversation with her friend Nancy Joy Dozier. From Nancy’s upbringing as a pastor’s kid and her husband’s battle with a life threatening illness to the power of God’s word and the power of our words, Gina & Nancy cover a lot of ground. You will be encouraged, challenged and inspired!
Nancy Joy Dozier is a certified life coach, author, speaker, personal pastor, and mentor.
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Biblical Declarations Are Not About You
Gina:
You say on page 71. “It’s an irresponsible and destructive gospel that obligates God to our bidding solely based on our declaration.”
Nancy:
It is so irresponsible to tell people, “If you sow this thousand dollar seed, whatever you are believing God for, we prophesy that new house. We prophesy that.” What if God doesn’t want you in this season to have a new house? What if God wants you to stay in that little neighborhood that you live in, because there’s a family next door that has a mama who is suicidal and God needs you to intercept that assignment from the enemy.
But you are so caught up in, “Oh God, I need my new house. I need to move out of this.” You miss the opportunity to be Jesus, to somebody who’s going to die and go to hell, unless you manifest as the sons of God, according to Romans chapter 8. We miss these opportunities to stay in the will of God, because we are so focused on as the world says, or as Instagram says, living your best life.
But we’re not called to live our best life. We’re called to live in likeness in His image. We’re called to bring His kingdom into the earth. It was never about me living my best life.
Gina:
It’s never just about you. Your healing, your salvation, your deliverance, the provision. It’s never just about you. Nothing is wasted. There’s so much more at play in the Kingdom. There’s so much more at play in the spiritual realm with every choice I make, with every decision of obedience or not, with every act of faith or not.
Biblical Declarations That Change Nations
Nancy:
I heard a message the other day and I just had to pause and sit with it. You know how you hear something and it’s so heavy. I had to turn it off and sit. This minister was talking about how God’s plan of redemption was so elaborate. He began to talk about Ruth. It took 40 generations for God to insert her into the storyline. He had to go through all of these twists and turns and ups and downs to insert this girl into this storyline, so that the Word that He spoke at the beginning would come to pass. And that this king David would come into this lineage and then Jesus would come from that lineage.
Your life is not this random isolated thing. There’s nothing about your life that is random and isolated. God is weaving you into storylines that you may not even be aware of. He’s positioning you to encounter people who need the love of God in ways you can never imagine.
Our pursuit, even in decreeing, it’s never, “God just bless me so I can be blessed.” I said the other day, I heard myself pray this in a time of prayer. And it took me back, but I want to share with you guys because it’s true. I heard myself say the other day, I said, “God, cause Pharaoh to call for me.” I’ve been reading through Genesis. I was reading about Joseph and the whole situation, the baker, the cup bearer. It gripped me.
There’s so much that God was speaking to me and I heard myself pray that God would cause Pharaoh to call for me. Where did that come from? I sat with that, “Cause Pharaoh to call for us.” Because there are some of us that need to be in that palace, so we can declare the Word of the Lord, so we can begin to give direction and instruction to national leaders, to civic leaders, to those that are Kings over entertainment, Kings over comedy, Kings over film, Kings over education, Kings over finance.
We’re in this isolated place going through our little dry season, practicing our little gift, loving Jesus in the dungeon. We’re saying, “My God will deliver me.” It’s like what God told you, “Pray big prayers.” What if we began to pray as the people of God and we began to decree, “I declare and I decree that Pharaoh is calling for me.
There’s an anointing on my life that is assigned to that king. There’s an anointing on my life that is assigned to that king over there.” We began to declare “God, cause Pharaoh to call for me, because what you’ve placed on my life is for the nations.”
Gina:
Before that you were talking about how people are praying for their house, but maybe God has them here, they don’t know about that single mom that might be living across the street that is suicidal. Those things that we don’t recognize that are so purposeful. Pharaoh calling you out, could be that that boy across the street is going to be the head of a corporation or is going to be a leader.
Your presence, you being Jesus, you representing the love of the Father in that space is going to set a trajectory that is going to bring some redemption. Redemption is crazy. It’s mysterious. We can’t possibly fathom, wrap our heart, our minds around the reality of God’s omnipresence. He is, was, and will be. That He’s present. That He’s already sent the provision. He’s already spoken before Jesus was born, He already set the everything in motion.
That’s also this crazy redemption in the middle of the mess, that brings this beauty for ashes, that brings oil of joy for mourning, that opens the prison doors, that sets the captives free, that brings good news to the poor. How do we align ourselves with that and stop making more of ourselves than we ought, stop carrying more weight or burden than we need to, and actually step into that place of intimacy and trust and let Him speak and then speak back to Him what He’s speaking.
Saying What God is Saying
Nancy:
I don’t know where that comes from, that need to overcomplicate things when it comes to our relationships with God, our journey with God. I don’t know where that comes from in our Christian lineage. I feel that there’s this deep rooted performance based religious spirit. A lot of us carry that. We gain some type of gratification from performing and praying these certain types of prayers or doing these certain types of things.
God is like, “I just need you to come as a child. Just come, calm down, relax. Come as a child, I’ll take care of the rest. Say what I say, speak back to Me what I’ve spoken. Open your mouth and just declare what you hear Me say.” When you think about it, even in the natural, there’s a scripture that’s says, “It is in the natural, as it is in the spirit.”
Think about, you’ve got babies, they’re grown, but your babies. How did they learn to speak? How did they learn to say mama? How many times did you say, “Mama, say mama, say mama, say mama.” Before it clicked? And then one day they randomly say mama. It’s because of that intimacy and the proximity to mother and father, where they hear something that begins to develop.
Your ability to hear in the natural is directly connected to your ability to speak. That’s why oftentimes when people cannot hear, they don’t speak or do not speak well. Your ability to be in close enough proximity to Abba Father, to where you hear what He is saying, it is inevitable that you will then turn around and begin to repeat what you heard. It is as simple as breathing. It is as natural as whatever you kind of just do.
You spend enough time with your daddy and maybe your daddy kind of leans his head this one way, when he’s watching TV. You’ll look at a little toddler sitting next to their dad and what are they going to do? Lean their head that way. Because you’re going to begin to duplicate, or replicate, or resonate, whatever you are in proximity to, or whoever you’re in proximity to.
That’s the key to the decree. It’s about relationship. It’s about intimacy with Abba. It’s about being close enough to hear His heart. And if I can hear His heart, all I’ve got to do is lay my little head right there and just speak it back to Him.
Gina:
The enemy knows that. When he can get us wrapped up in trying to do enough things, to prove our worth. Those are the very barriers to intimacy. If I’m trying to impress God, then I’m not with God. If I’m trying to perform for God, I’m not with Him. I have Him as an observer and I’m trying to get access. Like you said, what is it about us? It is that we have this propensity under, even the law. We added more to the law.
Pharisees and the Sadducees, had enslaved themselves and others with so much more. Then Jesus comes and breaks through that. The Holy Spirit comes in the Pentecost breaks through that. Eventually man tries to solidify and add more rules and law. It’s just this cycle that we have. And the enemy leverages us with and causes us to fear the intimacy, that intimacy isn’t the safe place. But, in fact, it is.
All these things that I’m constructing for protection or for performance, are the very thing that are keeping me from that place of victory, that place of wholeness, that place of peace, that place of comfort, that place of safety. Is there anything that the Lord’s been speaking to you lately that you want to share?
Nancy:
We’re in such an exciting time. When we went into 2022, one of the things that the Lord really began to highlight to me, prophetically, is that this would be, like one of the books said, “It was the best of times. It was the worst times.” That those two realities are going to come alongside of each other. It’s because darkness is increasing, but dark increases only when God is like, “I’m going to send more light.” There’s this greater light.
There’s manifestation of His glory. There’s demonstration. The glory of the Lord shall cover the earth. Even as the waters cover over the sea. What’s happening is that God is enlarging our capacity, because Gina, we are the earth that gets covered with the glory. Sometimes when we think about that or we hear that scripture, we’re thinking the globe. He is talking about you.
We were made from the earth, the glory of the Lord shall cover the earth even as the waters cover over the sea. God is positioning His people and His kids to carry more glory, to release more glory. What we’re going to walk into, as even this being the month of February, you know, today is 2/2/22, and God is just speaking that there is this like a double grace.
The number two is the number of covenant. It is the number of partnerships. There are people that are getting ready to come into divine partnerships, divine alignments. Where maybe you’ve been toiling. You’ve been trying to build something. Whether it’s a business, a ministry, an idea you’ve been added by yourself and it’s been so heavy, it’s been so hard. God is like, “I’m bringing you into a time where I am sending help. I’m sending helpers. People that are going to begin to come alongside of you.”
God is taking His people out of the mentality of contracts. He is thrusting us into the reality of covenants. We’ve been living in this place of contractual relationships. Contractual fellowship with Holy Spirit. “If you do this, then I’ll do this. But if you don’t do this, if you don’t heal me, if you don’t touch me, if you don’t give me the goosebumps then I’m out.” We’re operating so much of the body as all operating in this contractual, where we have this out-clause.
But if you’ll come a little bit deeper, there’s this place of covenant that is so sweet. There’s this place of covenant where we partner together and we’re able to move together and forge ahead until the Kingdom is released. I feel like it’s going to be such an incredible time of demonstration. We’ve been seeing miracles upon miracles, upon miracles.
I’m so careful sometimes to even talk about all of the things that we see, because I don’t ever want anybody to get fixated on the things that God is doing, where they lose sight of God. He’s the prize. He is the Pearl of great price. It’s Him. He is the reward. His presence is the reward. His voice is our reward.
I believe that God wants to encourage His kids. So many people have lost faith. Sometimes we believe that God will do it for other people. We don’t necessarily believe He’ll do it for us. So many have gone through grief and all kinds of things in these last two and a half years of pandemic and trauma after trauma, after trauma. I believe that we are due for a release of the joy of the Lord. We are due for a baptism of joy. We are due for a baptism of celebration.
We’re going to begin to see God do things just because He can. Just because He’s daddy. Just get excited. God is doing something so sweet. He’s doing something so sweet. If we just open up our hearts, like you will be pleasantly surprised and blessed by God’s ability to do more in less time. This is the month of February. We have less days, but God will do more with less in this month.
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